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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:10:00 -
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So what you're saying is though you knew the order to fire was wrong, you did it anyway, and now you criticise the order you voluntarily followed?
You aided and assisted a hostile invasion fleet against the allies of the Republic, and broke strict terms of the Yulai convention. Your actions have likely put unnecessary strain on an alliance already battered by pointless sabre ratting and politicking over this shooter.
And it seems that a woman who spent her life campaigning for peace will be remembered with her death leading to a pointless f##king bloodbath. You made your own choice today, the pilots with you did the same.
I only hope that lessons can be learned from today today, and learned in time to repair this battered relationship and find a peaceful resolution to the situation at hand. Enjoy your gaming.
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:01:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: 1) I was not "just following orders". I made a choice to follow the chain of command I have willingly taken an oath to. Those are two different things and if you are unable to grasp the difference, I really have nothing further to say to you
This oath, does it state you'll willingly take up arms as part of an invading fleet against allies of the Republic?
Does it state you'll break the Yulai convention willingly over a dispute to which you have no legal standing?
Does it state you'll blindly start firing just because others did so first?
See, if this was a Federal fleet in Republic space I'd completely understand your oath. You'd be defending the Republic from a hostile invader. You assisted an invading fleet against your own allies, what kind of bullshit oath is that Elsebeth? Enjoy your gaming.
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
910
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:28:00 -
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Your oath swore you to defend the Republic.
In what twisted universe do you live in where defending the Republic means "Invading and assaulting it's allies."?
Or are the Republic and the Federation suddenly at war, or was this really a time of emergency? Because if you call this a time of emergency then your oath is practically meaningless to allow such an open ended interpretation to be used on a whim.
Nothing in that oath supports what you did yesterday, I thought your principles to be better than this Elsebeth. I held a lot of respect for you, that despite disagreements you were a person with integrity regarding doing the right thing when push came to shove.
Clearly I was wrong. Enjoy your gaming.
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:37:00 -
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The loss of physical ships is irrelevant.
The pointless loss of good men and women however, can you rebuild them? No. Enjoy your gaming.
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
925
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:52:00 -
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Nick Bete wrote:Lyn Farel wrote: The Voluval looks perfectly like spiritual, dogmatic tyranny to me. To my eyes, it is mostly a petty matter of pots and kettles here.
You really don't have a clue, do you? What's tyrannical about the Voluval? Please enlighten us. You should quit pretending to be some kind of rational voice and wear your bias towards the Empire proudly. You're not fooling anyone. Those who regularly read your little snipes understands and personal attacks know differently.
Your constant obsession with Miss Farel's posting is starting to border stalker level creepiness.
Would help if you were actually right in your comments though. Enjoy your gaming.
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
1033
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Posted - 2013.07.04 11:13:00 -
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There's nothing in Electus Matari's oath about blindly following orders that undermine the Republic's position with their allies and wastes thousands of lives in the process on both sides.
"Following orders" is a bullshit lie one tells themselves in a vain attempt to try and feel better for doing something they knew was wrong. Enjoy your gaming.
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
1035
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Posted - 2013.07.04 14:31:00 -
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Your explanation doesn't challenge my point, if anything it reinforces it.
You* had a choice, you had the choice to refuse, to point out the folly of what was a stupid idea. You had the chance to make a stand and point out what they were suggesting was a step too far, you had the chance to put doubt in their mind as to the logical nature of their actions.
You had a chance to prevent it in your hands, and you chose not to.
* I will note "you" here is not the personal, but toward the organisation. Except for whoever made the call, that person can take credit for the choice made. Enjoy your gaming.
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
1035
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Posted - 2013.07.04 14:40:00 -
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Ava Starfire wrote: I think you completely missed the point.
That you justify it being the only choice because of sentimental reasons?
Stupid people will continue to make bad decisions as long as others constantly chase after them to bail them out, rather than let them make the mistake and learn from it. Enjoy your gaming.
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